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			=== Add Detail depending on the Level of Detail ===

			Examples:

			* http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/12107-announcement-seed-system/page__view__findpost__p__286786
			* http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/12107-announcement-seed-system/page__view__findpost__p__286825

	=== TODO ===		=== TODO ===

SteveL: /* Random Decorator / correcting spawnargs. Tels changed spawn_class_ to template_* in SEED

2014-02-24T00:57:42Z

Random Decorator: correcting spawnargs. Tels changed spawn_class_* to template_* in SEED

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	"remove" "1" // remove the SEED entity after spawning the entities		"remove" "1" // remove the SEED entity after spawning the entities
	"max_entities" "4"		"max_entities" "4"
	"~~spawn_class~~" "atdm:moveable_food_apple"		"template" "atdm:moveable_food_apple"
	"~~spawn_count~~" "3"		"template_count" "3"
	"~~spawn_skin~~" "tdm_fruit_brownish"		"template_skin" "tdm_fruit_brownish"
	"~~spawn_class_1~~" "atdm:moveable_food_pear"		"template_1" "atdm:moveable_food_pear"
	"~~spawn_count_1~~" "2"		"template_1_count" "2"
	</pre>		</pre>

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2011-02-01T08:35:26Z

typo

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	* more clear instructions		* more clear instructions

	{{seed}		{{seed}}

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2011-02-01T08:34:29Z

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==

	{{infobox\|Note: '''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[SEED]] first.'''}}		{{infobox\|Note: '''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[SEED]] first!'''}}

	The SEED System (available in TDM from v1.04 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:		The SEED System (available in TDM from v1.04 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:
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	This would spawn at most 3 apples and at most 2 pears, but overall not more than 4 entities. Remember to make the SEED space big enough so that all to-be spawned entities will fit!		This would spawn at most 3 apples and at most 2 pears, but overall not more than 4 entities. Remember to make the SEED space big enough so that all to-be spawned entities will fit!

	See [[SEED - Spawnargs~~#spawn_class.2Fspawn_count.2Fspawn_skin\|here~~]] for more details.		See [[SEED - Templates via Spawnargs]] for more details.

	{{infobox\|Do not confuse spawn_class with spawnclass, this will make the SEED stop working!}}		{{infobox\|Do not confuse spawn_class with spawnclass, this will make the SEED stop working!}}
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	In this scenario you can use the SEED system as an entity manager. Just tell it to not take it's targets as entity templates to create new entities, but instead as the class of already existing entities it should watch. All the entities inside the SEED area of the given class will then be added under control of the SEED, so they just keep their positions, rotation and skin, but they get potentially hidden and removed/respawned when nec. Best of both worlds.		In this scenario you can use the SEED system as an entity manager. Just tell it to not take it's targets as entity templates to create new entities, but instead as the class of already existing entities it should watch. All the entities inside the SEED area of the given class will then be added under control of the SEED, so they just keep their positions, rotation and skin, but they get potentially hidden and removed/respawned when nec. Best of both worlds.

	~~Create a copy of~~ one of your existing entities~~, target it~~ from your SEED and put the following spawnarg this entity:		Just target one of your existing entities from your SEED by selecting first the SEED, then selecting the target, then pressing {{CTRL}}+{{key\|K}}) and put the following spawnarg this entity:

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	* more clear instructions		* more clear instructions

	~~== See also ==~~		{{seed}

	* [[LOD]] - Level of Detail System
	* [[SEED]] - System for Environmental Entity Distribution
	* [[SEED - Watching entities]]

	{{~~editing}~~}

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	"seed_watch_brethren" "1"		"seed_watch_brethren" "1"
	</pre>		</pre>

			See [[SEED - Watching entities\|this article]] for a longer explanation with images and reasons why to use this.

	=== Generate Huge Scenes ===		=== Generate Huge Scenes ===
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	* [[LOD]] - Level of Detail System		* [[LOD]] - Level of Detail System
	* [[SEED]] - System for Environmental Entity Distribution		* [[SEED]] - System for Environmental Entity Distribution
			* [[SEED - Watching entities]]

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2011-01-20T20:47:29Z

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==

	Note: ''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[SEED]] first.''		{{infobox\|Note: '''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[SEED]] first.'''}}

	The SEED System (available in TDM from v1.04 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:		The SEED System (available in TDM from v1.04 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:
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	== See also ==		== See also ==

	* [[LOD\|Level of Detail System]]		* [[LOD]] - Level of Detail System
	* [[SEED\|System for Environmental Entity Distribution]]		* [[SEED]] - System for Environmental Entity Distribution

	{{editing}}		{{editing}}

Tels: SEED => LODE

2011-01-20T20:27:45Z

SEED => LODE

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==

	Note: ''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[~~LODE~~]] first.''		Note: ''It is recommended that you read the pages about [[LOD]] and [[SEED]] first.''

	The ~~LODE~~ System (available in TDM from v1.03 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:		The SEED System (available in TDM from v1.04 on) enables you to overcome the built-in entity limit, as well as randomly generate entities. But since the system is new and it might still be unclear on how and when to use it, this page provides a few real-map scenarios with examples:

	== Usage cases ==		== Usage cases ==
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	=== Random Loot Generator ===		=== Random Loot Generator ===

	Place a small ~~LODE~~ in your map, plus three loot entities. Target these from the ~~LODE~~ and set the following spawnargs (enter them in DR without the quotes!) on the ~~LODE~~:		Place a small SEED entity ('''atdm:SEED''') in your map, plus three loot entities. Target these from the SEED and set the following spawnargs (enter them in DR without the quotes!) on the SEED:

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	This means all the loot entities will be of the same probability, but only one of them will ever be generated. Also, the "remove 1" means the ~~LODE~~ will remove itself after spawning the other entity.		This means all the loot entities will be of the same probability, but only one of them will ever be generated. Also, the "remove 1" means the SEED will remove itself after spawning the other entity.

	Note: Players expect that the loot in a map is stable, e.g. when they play it again, they get the same amount of loot from the same places. While you can break this expectation f.i. by randomly spawning a loot piece in different places, having different loot pieces in the ''''same'''' place might confuse people. To avoid this, make the loot amount on all the entities targeted by this ~~lode~~ the same, but choose different entities (like a bottle of wine, a statue and a plate).		Note: Players expect that the loot in a map is stable, e.g. when they play it again, they get the same amount of loot from the same places. While you can break this expectation f.i. by randomly spawning a loot piece in different places, having different loot pieces in the ''''same'''' place might confuse people. To avoid this, make the loot amount on all the entities targeted by this SEED the same, but choose different entities (like a bottle of wine, a statue and a plate).

	=== Random Decorator ===		=== Random Decorator ===

	Just like in the loot case, place your ~~LODE~~, target the entities, and set their '''~~lode_score~~''' spawnargs to the wanted distribution, then either set '''density''' or '''max_entities''' on the ~~LODE~~. Useful for:		Just like in the loot case, place your [[SEED]] entity, target the entities, and set their '''seed_score''' spawnargs to the wanted distribution, then either set '''density''' or '''max_entities''' on the SEED. Useful for:

	* putting in random crates, barrels and junk into basements		* putting in random crates, barrels and junk into basements
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	You'll find some pre-made entities for spawning random food, junk or other things under '''Darkmod/Randoms''' inside the DarkRadiant menu "Create entity" accessible with {{RMB}}.		You'll find some pre-made entities for spawning random food, junk or other things under '''Darkmod/Randoms''' inside the DarkRadiant menu "Create entity" accessible with {{RMB}}.

	Note: When building such things by yourself, it it more efficient to use the following spawnargs on the ~~LODE~~ to avoid having to place entities first:		Note: When building such things by yourself, it it more efficient to use the following spawnargs on the SEED to avoid having to place entities first:

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	"remove" "1" // remove the ~~LODE~~ after spawning the entities		"remove" "1" // remove the SEED entity after spawning the entities
	"max_entities" "4"		"max_entities" "4"
	"spawn_class" "atdm:moveable_food_apple"		"spawn_class" "atdm:moveable_food_apple"
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	This would spawn at most 3 apples and at most 2 pears, but overall not more than 4 entities. Remember to make the ~~LODE~~ space big enough so that all to-be spawned entities will fit!		This would spawn at most 3 apples and at most 2 pears, but overall not more than 4 entities. Remember to make the SEED space big enough so that all to-be spawned entities will fit!

	See [[~~LODE~~#spawn_class.2Fspawn_count.2Fspawn_skin\|here]] for more details.		See [[SEED - Spawnargs#spawn_class.2Fspawn_count.2Fspawn_skin\|here]] for more details.

	{{infobox\|Do not confuse spawn_class with spawnclass, this will make the ~~LODE~~ stop working!}}		{{infobox\|Do not confuse spawn_class with spawnclass, this will make the SEED stop working!}}

	=== Overcome the entity limit ===		=== Overcome the entity limit ===
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	Suppose you have already placed manually a few hundred or even thousand entities in your map, and start to run into the entity limit. Or, if you have hundreds of entities under the [[LOD]] system, their thinking uses up time.		Suppose you have already placed manually a few hundred or even thousand entities in your map, and start to run into the entity limit. Or, if you have hundreds of entities under the [[LOD]] system, their thinking uses up time.

	In this scenario you can use the ~~LODE~~ system as an entity manager. Just tell it to not take it's targets as entity templates to create new entities, but instead as the class of already existing entities it should watch. All the entities inside the ~~LODE~~ area of the given class will then be added under control of the ~~LODE~~, so they just keep their positions, rotation and skin, but they get potentially hidden and removed/respawned when nec. Best of both worlds.		In this scenario you can use the SEED system as an entity manager. Just tell it to not take it's targets as entity templates to create new entities, but instead as the class of already existing entities it should watch. All the entities inside the SEED area of the given class will then be added under control of the SEED, so they just keep their positions, rotation and skin, but they get potentially hidden and removed/respawned when nec. Best of both worlds.

	Create a copy of one of your existing entities, target it from your ~~LODE~~ and put the following spawnarg this entity:		Create a copy of one of your existing entities, target it from your SEED and put the following spawnarg this entity:

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	"~~lode_watch_brethren~~" "1"		"seed_watch_brethren" "1"
	</pre>		</pre>

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	* [[LOD\|Level of Detail System]]		* [[LOD\|Level of Detail System]]
	* [[~~LODE~~\|~~Level of Detail~~ Entity ~~manager~~]]		* [[SEED\|System for Environmental Entity Distribution]]

	{{editing}}		{{editing}}

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2011-01-20T20:24:54Z

LODE Usage moved to SEED Usage: SEED is the new LODE

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			=== TODO ===

			* Screenshots
			* example maps
			* more clear instructions

	== See also ==		== See also ==

SEED - Usage - Revision history

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SteveL: /* Random Decorator */ correcting spawnargs. Tels changed spawn_class_* to template_* in SEED

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Tels: use template and clean up

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Tels: SEED Usage moved to SEED - Usage: typo

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Tels: LODE Usage moved to SEED Usage: SEED is the new LODE

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SteveL: /* Random Decorator / correcting spawnargs. Tels changed spawn_class_ to template_* in SEED