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Grayman: /* Area shape and blocking areas */

2015-03-24T01:01:17Z

Area shape and blocking areas

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	[[Image:No_lode.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|A NO SEED entity blocking an area]]		[[Image:No_lode.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|A NO SEED entity blocking an area]]

	At the moment the area covered by the entity is always treated as a (~~possible~~ rotated) box. That means you cannot get f.i. triangle shaped areas (yet). However, it is possible to block some areas inside the covered area from getting any entities via '''Darkmod/Info/atdm:no_seed''' entities. With this "boolean subtract" you can create "holes" or even more complex shapes.		At the moment the area covered by the entity is always treated as a (possibly rotated) box. That means you cannot get f.i. triangle shaped areas (yet). However, it is possible to block some areas inside the covered area from getting any entities via '''Darkmod/Info/atdm:no_seed''' entities. With this "boolean subtract" you can create "holes" or even more complex shapes.

	To get this to work, place '''atdm::no_seed''' entities and then ~~link~~ them from the SEED. If you want ~~to have~~ one SEED inhibitor to block more than one intersecting SEED, simply ~~link~~ it from both. See screenshot at right for an example.		To get this to work, place '''atdm::no_seed''' entities and then target them from the SEED. If you want one SEED inhibitor to block more than one intersecting SEED, simply target it from both. See screenshot at right for an example. If you have more than one inhibitor inside a SEED, target each from the seed ("target0", "target1", etc.)

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Tels: remove experimental tag

2012-06-17T20:47:07Z

remove experimental tag

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	~~{{infobox\|Note: '''SEED''' is experimental and should only be tested by mappers for now and not be used in FMs yet!}}~~

	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==

Tels: fix links

2011-02-08T18:11:21Z

fix links

Tels: add link

2011-02-08T17:54:27Z

add link

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	{{infobox\|Note: ~~The~~ SEED ~~system~~ is experimental and should ~~at this point~~ only be tested by mappers~~. It should~~ not be used in FMs yet!}}		{{infobox\|Note: '''SEED''' is experimental and should only be tested by mappers for now and not be used in FMs yet!}}

	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==
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	* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).		* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).

	To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010, and has been continually improved since then.		To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010, and has been continually improved since then. See the [[SEED - How it works\|technical background]] article for in-depth info.

	=== What is it ===		=== What is it ===

Tels: template fix

2011-02-01T08:02:10Z

template fix

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	Removes all entities under control of this SEED from the game. Only useful if either the player is very far away, or if you have called '''disable()''' before - otherwise the entities might be spawned again in the next frame.		Removes all entities under control of this SEED from the game. Only useful if either the player is very far away, or if you have called '''disable()''' before - otherwise the entities might be spawned again in the next frame.

	{{~~seedseealso}}~~		{{seed}}

	~~{{editing}} {{scripting~~}}

Tels: add template and links

2011-02-01T08:00:25Z

add template and links

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	:'''Note:'''<br> If you want to resize the SEED entity after creating it, select it with {{SHIFT}} + {{LMB}} and press {{Key\|TAB}} to select the brush, then resize it normally.		:'''Note:'''<br> If you want to resize the SEED entity after creating it, select it with {{SHIFT}} + {{LMB}} and press {{Key\|TAB}} to select the brush, then resize it normally.

	* Now '''either add''' the appropriate [[~~SEED_~~-~~_Spawnargs#spawn_class/spawn_count/spawn_skin~~\|'''spawnargs''']] on the SEED, '''or create''' the entities that you want to appear. (These entities are sometimes called "targets (because the SEED targets them) or templates (because they are just a blueprint for other entities that should be created). What types of entities can you use?		* Now '''either add''' the appropriate [[SEED - Templates via Spawnargs\|'''templates via spawnargs''']] on the SEED, '''or create''' the entities that you want to appear and then link them from the SEED. (These entities are sometimes called "targets (because the SEED targets them) or templates (because they are just a blueprint for other entities that should be created). What types of entities can you use?
	** Place any entity by with {{RMB}} -> 'Create Entity'. Entities that use the [[LOD]] system should be preferred.		** Place any entity by with {{RMB}} -> 'Create Entity'. Entities that use the [[LOD]] system should be preferred.
	** Draw brushes/patches in DR, then turn them into a func_static.		** Draw brushes/patches in DR, then turn them into a func_static.
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	== Spawnargs ==		== Spawnargs ==

	Please see the [[SEED - Spawnargs]] ~~article~~ for the spawnargs you can set.		Please see the [[SEED - Spawnargs]] and [[SEED - Templates via Spawnargs]] articles for the spawnargs you can set.

	== Script events ==		== Script events ==
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	Removes all entities under control of this SEED from the game. Only useful if either the player is very far away, or if you have called '''disable()''' before - otherwise the entities might be spawned again in the next frame.		Removes all entities under control of this SEED from the game. Only useful if either the player is very far away, or if you have called '''disable()''' before - otherwise the entities might be spawned again in the next frame.

			{{seedseealso}}
	~~<!--~~
	~~= Ideas ==~~

	~~Worth considering:~~

	~~=== lode_strategy ===~~

	How the entities will be placed. Default: "random", but can be "grid" (needs a way to specifiy grid-size, grid spacing, and random-offset from grid position). See [[SEED - Cloning]] for a detailed proposal.

	~~=== lode_oriented_z ===~~

	~~If true, orient the entity perpendicular to the floor, before applying the random rotation values. Good for things that should stand on step inclines.-->~~

	~~== See also ==~~

	* [[LOD\|LOD System]]
	* [[SEED - Spawnargs]]
	* [[SEED - Usage]] - Examples on how to use SEED in real-map scenarios
	* [[SEED - Watching entities]] - Example on how to improve performance and reduce entity count
	* [[SEED - Falloff function]] - How to use "falloff" "func" to get more complicated distribution patterns
	* [[SEED - Known bugs]]
	* [[SEED - FAQ]]

	{{editing}} {{scripting}}		{{editing}} {{scripting}}

Tels: add link

2011-01-30T15:59:43Z

add link

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	* [[SEED - Spawnargs]]		* [[SEED - Spawnargs]]
	* [[SEED - Usage]] - Examples on how to use SEED in real-map scenarios		* [[SEED - Usage]] - Examples on how to use SEED in real-map scenarios
			* [[SEED - Watching entities]] - Example on how to improve performance and reduce entity count
	* [[SEED - Falloff function]] - How to use "falloff" "func" to get more complicated distribution patterns		* [[SEED - Falloff function]] - How to use "falloff" "func" to get more complicated distribution patterns
	* [[SEED - Known bugs]]		* [[SEED - Known bugs]]

Tels: dates dates dates

2011-01-24T14:08:24Z

dates dates dates

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	* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).		* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).

	To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010.		To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010, and has been continually improved since then.

	=== What is it ===		=== What is it ===

Nbohr1more: /* Introduction */

2011-01-20T21:43:53Z

Introduction

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	== Introduction ==		== Introduction ==

	The new and improved [[LOD\|LOD System]] for TDM v1.03 lets you place entities in your map that reduce their own complexity when being far away from the player. However, there are still some huge drawbacks to this technique:		The new and improved [[LOD\|LOD System]] for TDM v1.04 lets you place entities in your map that reduce their own complexity when being far away from the player. However, there are still some huge drawbacks to this technique:

	* manually placing thousands of entities is very tedious and error prone		* manually placing thousands of entities is very tedious and error prone
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	The system also includes support for inhibitors, e.g. areas that are clear of generated entities. This way a forest clearing can be specified with only a few entities, instead of being pieced together from multiple generators.		The system also includes support for inhibitors, e.g. areas that are clear of generated entities. This way a forest clearing can be specified with only a few entities, instead of being pieced together from multiple generators.


	== How to use it ==		== How to use it ==

Nbohr1more: /* How to use it */

2011-01-20T21:36:02Z

How to use it

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	[[Image:Lode.png\|400px\|right\|thumb\|A SEED entity in the editor]] [[Image:Lode_pine.png\|400px\|right\|thumb\|An entity targeted by the ~~LODE~~]]		[[Image:Lode.png\|400px\|right\|thumb\|A SEED entity in the editor]] [[Image:Lode_pine.png\|400px\|right\|thumb\|An entity targeted by the SEED]]

	* In [[DarkRadiant]], create a brush the size of the area you want to cover		* In [[DarkRadiant]], create a brush the size of the area you want to cover
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	** You can also place a model in DR, then use/link it as entity.		** You can also place a model in DR, then use/link it as entity.
	* Link each entity from the SEED entity by selecting first the SEED, then the entity, and then press {{CTRL}}+{{Key\|K}}.		* Link each entity from the SEED entity by selecting first the SEED, then the entity, and then press {{CTRL}}+{{Key\|K}}.
	* Put the entities at the height you want them to appear. Alternatively, use the spawnarg '''"~~lode_floor~~"''' on the entity (see below for more spawnargs). The X/Y or rotation position of the entity does not matter, but you can f.i. use different skins.		* Put the entities at the height you want them to appear. Alternatively, use the spawnarg '''"seed_floor"''' on the entity (see below for more spawnargs). The X/Y or rotation position of the entity does not matter, but you can f.i. use different skins.
	* Remember to '''dmap''' whenever you '''add, delete or change''' the position/size of a SEED!		* Remember to '''dmap''' whenever you '''add, delete or change''' the position/size of a SEED!

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	=== Area shape and blocking areas ===		=== Area shape and blocking areas ===

	[[Image:No_lode.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|A NO ~~LODE~~ entity blocking an area]]		[[Image:No_lode.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|A NO SEED entity blocking an area]]

	At the moment the area covered by the entity is always treated as a (possible rotated) box. That means you cannot get f.i. triangle shaped areas (yet). However, it is possible to block some areas inside the covered area from getting any entities via '''Darkmod/Info/atdm:no_seed''' entities. With this "boolean subtract" you can create "holes" or even more complex shapes.		At the moment the area covered by the entity is always treated as a (possible rotated) box. That means you cannot get f.i. triangle shaped areas (yet). However, it is possible to block some areas inside the covered area from getting any entities via '''Darkmod/Info/atdm:no_seed''' entities. With this "boolean subtract" you can create "holes" or even more complex shapes.

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	* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).		* While it is possible to combine multiple brushes/patches into one ''func_static'' to improve performance (less drawcalls), this is not possible for static models (trees, chairs etc) unless you do so in a modelling program (like Blender). But even when you do so, the created models are either too generic or too specific (they are recognizable by the player because they always appear in the same relative position to each other).

	To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010, and has been continually improved since then~~. See the [[SEED - How it works\|technical background]] article for in-depth info~~.		To overcome these limitations, the new '''SEED''' (System for Environmental Entity Distribution) system was created by Tels between June and October 2010, and has been continually improved since then.

	=== What is it ===		=== What is it ===
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	It is foremost an entity manager that can:		It is foremost an entity manager that can:

	* ~~Create~~ entities from "templates" (even multiple templates at the same time)		* '''[[SEED - Generating entities\|Generate entities]]''' from "templates" (even multiple templates at the same time)
	* Place created entities on random positions with random rotations (and random vertex colors)		* Place created entities on random positions with random rotations (and random vertex colors)
	* Only creates (spawns) the entities that are "near" the player (saving memory and CPU time)		* Only creates (spawns) the entities that are "near" the player (saving memory and CPU time)
	* Removes entities "far" from the player, thus overcomes the [[entity limit]]		* Removes entities "far" from the player, thus overcomes the [[entity limit]]
	* Create entities depending on the surface of the floor (no trees on metal, or only pebbles on sand etc.), or based on an image map (greyscale image)		* Create entities depending on the surface of the floor (no trees on metal, or only pebbles on sand etc.), or based on an image map (greyscale image)
	* Manage entities that were manually placed in the map		* '''[[SEED - Watching entities\|Manage entities]]''' that were manually placed in the map
	* Combine ~~rendermodels of~~ many entities into one rendermodel (with a matching physics object built from multiple clipmodels), speeding up drawing thousands of things on the screen at the same time dramatically (this also helps overcome the [[entity limit]])		* '''[[SEED - Combining entities\|Combine]]''' many entities into one rendermodel (with a matching physics object built from multiple clipmodels), speeding up drawing thousands of things on the screen at the same time dramatically (this also helps overcome the [[entity limit]])
	* Is tied in with the "Object detail" menu setting (so the player can control the amount of detail, depending on the speed of his machine)		* Is tied in with the "Object detail" menu setting (so the player can control the amount of detail, depending on the speed of his machine)
	* Works entirely automatic, but has still a lot of manual control for the mapper		* Works entirely automatic, but has still a lot of manual control for the mapper